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inquiry into bengahzi this week wants to know what petraeus learned on a secret trip to debrief the cia station chief there shortly before he resigned. >> we have asked to see the trip report. one person said he has read it, then we try to get it and they tell us it hasn't been done. that's unacceptable. we're entitled to this trip report. if we have to go to the floor of the senate on a subpoena, we will do that. >> reporter: feinstein and michael rogers also want to know why the president didn't learn about the fbi investigation until last thursday and why they didn't learn until a day later, the day petraeus resigned. but eric canter learned tof it two weeks earlier. >>> washington lawmakers will be returning to the capitol this morning and will be buzzing about the petraeus and allen investigations. but they're also going to be faced with a much larger problem. we're talking about the trillion dollar fiscal cliff, which if not dealt with before the end of the year will impact everyone in america. so today president obama will be meeting with key labor and progressive leaders at the
inquiry into bengahzi this week wants to know what petraeus learned on a secret trip to debrief the cia station chief there shortly before he resigned. >> we have asked to see the trip report. one person said he has read it, then we try to get it and they tell us it hasn't been done. that's unacceptable. we're entitled to this trip report. if we have to go to the floor of the senate on a subpoena, we will do that. >> reporter: feinstein and michael rogers also want to know why the...
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to speak a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morale who is a career agency analyst, michael morel has now stepped in as acting director again. i think that is, from the standpoint of the cia and the establishment of the u.s. intelligence office the most positive thing you could say. >> thank you, david, and richard, that's "hardball" for now. coming up next, "your business" with j.j. ramberg. since my first twenty-ninth birthday. [ female announcer ] head & shoulders. live flake free. campbell's has 24 new soups that will make it drop over, and over again. ♪ from jammin' jerk chicken, to creamy gouda bisque. see what's new from campbell's. it's amazing what soup can do.
to speak a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morale who is a career agency analyst, michael morel has now stepped in as acting director again. i think that is, from the standpoint of the cia and the establishment of the u.s. intelligence office the most positive thing you could say. >> thank you, david, and richard, that's "hardball" for now. coming up next, "your...
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to speak a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morrell who is a career agency analyst, michael morrell has now stepped in as acting director again. i think that is, from the standpoint of the cia and the establishment of the u.s. intelligence office the most positive thing you could say. >> thank you, david corn and thank you, dee dee myers. >>> coming up, buy romney lost i have a cold, and i took nyquil, but i'm still stubbed up. [ male announcer ] truth is, nyquil doesn't unstuff your nose. what? [ male announcer ] alka-seltzer plus liquid gels speeds relief to your worst cold symptoms plus has a decongestant for your stuffy nose. thanks. that's the cold truth! email marketing from constant contact reaches people in a place they're checking every day -- their inbox. and it gives you the tools to create custom emails that drive business. it's just one of the ways constant contact can help you grow your small business. sign up for your free trial today at constantcontact.com/try. to b
to speak a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morrell who is a career agency analyst, michael morrell has now stepped in as acting director again. i think that is, from the standpoint of the cia and the establishment of the u.s. intelligence office the most positive thing you could say. >> thank you, david corn and thank you, dee dee myers. >>> coming up, buy romney lost i...
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last night the fbi drops by the home of paula broadwell, the woma involved in the alleged affair with cia director david petraeus with agents carrying out boxes of material. now the top military commander in afghanistan is being investigated by the pentagon for having inappropriate communications with jill kelley, the woman who first blew the whistle on broadwell's threatening e-mails. oh, boy, here we go. good morning. i'm mika brzezinski, along with joe scarborough, this is "way too early," the show that receives on average about a dozen inappropriate communications from donny deutsch every day. >> every half hour. it's a long story. by the way, shirtless as well. we will talk about that. >> that's on a good day. thanks for being up with us. shoot us an e-mail or tweet u us and let us know why you're awake right now. or do what jill kelley's twin sister does and text the word awake followed by your response to 622639. we'll read the best responses later in the show. >> you kids make sure if your dad sends an e-mail, the shirt stays on. okay? seriously. i'm tired of looking at your dad's
last night the fbi drops by the home of paula broadwell, the woma involved in the alleged affair with cia director david petraeus with agents carrying out boxes of material. now the top military commander in afghanistan is being investigated by the pentagon for having inappropriate communications with jill kelley, the woman who first blew the whistle on broadwell's threatening e-mails. oh, boy, here we go. good morning. i'm mika brzezinski, along with joe scarborough, this is "way too...
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. >>> the surprising resignation of cia general david petraeus. the report is that indicative of an extramarital affair, paula broadwell has not responded to our repeated request for comment. kristen welcker is joining me now. what can you tell us about this breaking story? >> good afternoon, craig. the fbi has opened up an investigation into paula broadwell to see if she had improper access to general petraeus' e-mails or computer files. david petraeus is not under investigation himself and they do not expect their inquiry will result in criminal charges. we have, of course, reached out to paula broadwell. we have not heard back from her. she wrote a biography called "all in." some people describe it as glowing. it's certainly coming under a lot of scrutiny right now. just to give you a lick tick tock of how this unfolded. the white house learned about this on wednesday. general petraeus requested to meet with president obama on thursday. he explained the situation to the president, offered the resignation and president obama said give me 24 hour
. >>> the surprising resignation of cia general david petraeus. the report is that indicative of an extramarital affair, paula broadwell has not responded to our repeated request for comment. kristen welcker is joining me now. what can you tell us about this breaking story? >> good afternoon, craig. the fbi has opened up an investigation into paula broadwell to see if she had improper access to general petraeus' e-mails or computer files. david petraeus is not under investigation...
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the cia is extremely important. and we need to move on and get on with protecting this nation and finding out the things we need to know. >> congressman larson, general petraeus was expected to testify next week in front of the senate intelligence committee behind closed doors. what does this mean? he's not going to testify unless he's subpoenaed. do you think he needs to step forward? or is he a citizen going on about his way? >> i think that he's a citizen going on his way. i think the point that john makes that certainly the cia is very capable and very competent and will provide the hearing and the information that is needed. i think in part people would probably like to see general petraeus come forward and testify behind closed doors because of what he knows. i'm sure his staff is equipped and prepared with regard to that. >> okay. great to have you both with us here on "the ed show." appreciate your time. remember to answer tonight's question at the bottom of the screen. share your thoughts with us. we want t
the cia is extremely important. and we need to move on and get on with protecting this nation and finding out the things we need to know. >> congressman larson, general petraeus was expected to testify next week in front of the senate intelligence committee behind closed doors. what does this mean? he's not going to testify unless he's subpoenaed. do you think he needs to step forward? or is he a citizen going on about his way? >> i think that he's a citizen going on his way. i...
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there's an fbi and cia, infa infatuated with jill kelley >> let's get this straight. this guy works at the fbi, becomes infatuated. she gets shirtless photos of him allegedly. she goes to him and says i'm getting these weird e-mails. >> he takes this matter into a federal investigation you have to wonder. an fbi investigation if not for this one agent's involvement and especially him going to congress as a whistle blower saying it wasn't being investigated fairly. it's just very bizarre. >> once the fbi got involved, why didn't notify the white house and congress right away? the questions go on and on. >> don't send shirtless picture of yourself, unless they're vacation photos with your family. >> these e-mails with john allen, 20,000 and 30,000 e-mails. as a member of council of foreign relations, what does this do to the president? >> david petraeus was a very important part of all of these conversations. he would have been a crucial advisement, the civil war in syria, all of which are among the pressing foreign policy questions right now. he doesn't need him resign
there's an fbi and cia, infa infatuated with jill kelley >> let's get this straight. this guy works at the fbi, becomes infatuated. she gets shirtless photos of him allegedly. she goes to him and says i'm getting these weird e-mails. >> he takes this matter into a federal investigation you have to wonder. an fbi investigation if not for this one agent's involvement and especially him going to congress as a whistle blower saying it wasn't being investigated fairly. it's just very...
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it started once he got to the cia. so after he left active duty and ended four months ago. they also insist that jill kelley, who s of course, the woman who says she was getting harassing e-mails from paula broadwell, his biographer and the alleged person with whom he was having the extramarital relationship, that jill kelley is just a friend. they say she's a family friend. that the families have known each other for a long time. jill kelley lives down in florida. those are the details that are starting to come out. he's starting to reach out to friends and former aides and essentially to apologize and express remorse. >> sure. it's a profoundly tragic and moving story all at once. the president will meet with several stakeholders this week, including congressional leaders on economic path forward. how confident is the president that he's got enough political capital to finally get republicans to compromise and avoid the so-called fiscal cliff before the end of the year or will it be deja vu all over again? >> reporter: we are going to have to wait and see. that's basicall
it started once he got to the cia. so after he left active duty and ended four months ago. they also insist that jill kelley, who s of course, the woman who says she was getting harassing e-mails from paula broadwell, his biographer and the alleged person with whom he was having the extramarital relationship, that jill kelley is just a friend. they say she's a family friend. that the families have known each other for a long time. jill kelley lives down in florida. those are the details that...
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i know the cia is going to miss him. all of us on the hill are going to tremendously miss him. >> do you have any concerns that national security was ever at risk? >> you know, i just don't know enough about the details, really, at this moment to respond. i've read everything that's come out thus far and i'm sure more will come out as the week goes on. but, i just don't know enough, really, to weigh in. >> no. >> i can just say that, you know, again, he's a figure here that people respected. i know he contributed tremendously through his lifetime to our national security, and i hate to see him leave. >> well, i appreciate your candor, because it's a very sensitive situation. how about this, though, sir, from a political perspective, there are those who suggest there is more here that meets the eye. do you buy any of that talk? >> i just don't know. i mean, this is a place that's always looking for conspiracy theory. i think you know i've led the charge on benghazi. i've been to libya since it occurred. and tried to under
i know the cia is going to miss him. all of us on the hill are going to tremendously miss him. >> do you have any concerns that national security was ever at risk? >> you know, i just don't know enough about the details, really, at this moment to respond. i've read everything that's come out thus far and i'm sure more will come out as the week goes on. but, i just don't know enough, really, to weigh in. >> no. >> i can just say that, you know, again, he's a figure here...
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the resignation of the general petraeus who stepped down as cia director on friday. multiple government sources tell nbc news that e-mails between petraeus and broadwell were indicative of an extramarital affair. kristen welker is joining me. let's start with the fbi investigation into this biographer paula broadwell. what can you tell us about this at this point? >> the fbi has opened up an investigation to determine whether paula broadwell had access to general petraeus' e-mail. general petraeus is not under investigation and they don't expect their inquiry will result in criminal charges. now, we have reached out to paula broadwell. we haven't heard back from her yet. she is, of course, at the center of this scandal. so who is she? she is a harvard graduate, also went to west point and she wrote this biography that i have here in my hands. it's called "all in," the education of general petraeus. it's a thick book but i want to read a lig sellment. she says, his critics fault him for ambition. i will note that he is driven and goal-orient d. so just one sentence in
the resignation of the general petraeus who stepped down as cia director on friday. multiple government sources tell nbc news that e-mails between petraeus and broadwell were indicative of an extramarital affair. kristen welker is joining me. let's start with the fbi investigation into this biographer paula broadwell. what can you tell us about this at this point? >> the fbi has opened up an investigation to determine whether paula broadwell had access to general petraeus' e-mail. general...
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a cia director, a u.s. military commander, a social liaison, a writer and wait for it, a shirtless fbi agent. we will try to unravel the real-life tragic comedy that is the david petraeus sex scandal. president obama takes on the role of salesman in chief. panelists steve kornacki, jonathan capehart, michael eric dyson and ashley parker weigh in. new york magazine's benjamin wallace wells explained why mitt romney america could be releg e relegated to death history. starts in a mere 180 seconds. [ ] raise the roof! ah? raise the roof! [ male announcer ] it's our biggest toy rollback of the year. find hundreds of rollbacks on the season's hottest toys in stores now, from america's gift headquarters, walmart. something this delicious could only come from nature. new nectresse. the 100% natural no-calorie sweetener made from the goodness of fruit. new nectresse. sweetness naturally. [ male announcer ] it's that time of year again. medicare open enrollment. time to compare plans and costs. you don't have to mak
a cia director, a u.s. military commander, a social liaison, a writer and wait for it, a shirtless fbi agent. we will try to unravel the real-life tragic comedy that is the david petraeus sex scandal. president obama takes on the role of salesman in chief. panelists steve kornacki, jonathan capehart, michael eric dyson and ashley parker weigh in. new york magazine's benjamin wallace wells explained why mitt romney america could be releg e relegated to death history. starts in a mere 180...
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as a former cia director. if they found out the director was having an affair, the committee should have been informed. but the view is there's a narrow rule about when you notify congressional committees of investigations and they felt this didn't fit. >> thank you very much. great pleasure having you on with the latest information. let me bring in msnbc analyst general barry mccaffery. thank you for your time. let me get your first reaction. yesterday we were still scratching our heads over general petraeus, how could this happen. and you wake up this morning and now general allen a part of an investigation. what's your reaction to this one-two punch? >> well, you know, general petraeus i have known him since he was 25. he's probably the most brilliant commander we have produced since world war ii. so it's a damaging blow to national security to lose him in this position. he had to resign, risk-taking behavior is probably unacceptable by anybody. >> when you say risk-taking, is it the possibly exposure of hi
as a former cia director. if they found out the director was having an affair, the committee should have been informed. but the view is there's a narrow rule about when you notify congressional committees of investigations and they felt this didn't fit. >> thank you very much. great pleasure having you on with the latest information. let me bring in msnbc analyst general barry mccaffery. thank you for your time. let me get your first reaction. yesterday we were still scratching our heads...
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first, the resignation of the head of the cia, david peteus. and the possibility of a major financial crisis triggered if the country goes off the fiscal cliff. but right now, it seems like the petraeus scandal is overshadowing everything. the four star general resigned friday after admitting an affair with his biographer, paula broadwell. and investigators are asking why they didn't know about the investigation sooner. >> we received no advance notice. it was like a lightning bolt. the way i found out, i came back to washington thursday night. friday morning, the staff director told me there were a number of calls from press about this. i called david petraeus. >> and are you going to investigate why the fbi didn't notify you before? >> yes, absolutely. this is something that could have had an effect on national security. i think we should have been told. there is a way to do it. >> and several top republicans are demanding petraeus come back to capitol hill this week to testify before congress over the attack on the american consulate in beng
first, the resignation of the head of the cia, david peteus. and the possibility of a major financial crisis triggered if the country goes off the fiscal cliff. but right now, it seems like the petraeus scandal is overshadowing everything. the four star general resigned friday after admitting an affair with his biographer, paula broadwell. and investigators are asking why they didn't know about the investigation sooner. >> we received no advance notice. it was like a lightning bolt. the...
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this is the first time we've seen, as i say, the former cia director. joining me now is michael leiter, nbc news terrorism expert and former director of the national counterterrorism center at the cia. you've had long experience working there and you know what this agency is going through right now. it's extraordinary. they announced yesterday inspector general's investigation into whether david petraeus used his security detail, his planes, the facilities of office, resources of the agency, to further, to advance this relationship which we now he has acknowledged was paula broadwell. >> they did announce that. i think they made clear in that announcement this was completely precautionary. they were not suggesting he had done anything wrong. they thought this was right in light of all the news and attention that's been cast on the cia and as you say, this makes it a very difficult time for the cia during incredible international upheaval. >> we'll talk about in a moment. i want to ask you about the conflicts consensus on what benghazi was. petraeus, by
this is the first time we've seen, as i say, the former cia director. joining me now is michael leiter, nbc news terrorism expert and former director of the national counterterrorism center at the cia. you've had long experience working there and you know what this agency is going through right now. it's extraordinary. they announced yesterday inspector general's investigation into whether david petraeus used his security detail, his planes, the facilities of office, resources of the agency, to...
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he served this country with great distinction in iraq, in afghanistan, and as head of the cia. by his own assessment, he did not meet the standards that he felt were necessary as the director of cia with respect to this personal matter that he is now dealing with with his family and with his wife. it's on that basis that he tendered his resignation and it's on that basis that i accepted it. but i want to emphasize that from my perspective at least, he has provided this country an extraordinary service. we are safer because of the work that dave petraeus has done and my main hope right now is that he and his family are able to move on and that this ends up being a single side note on what has otherwise been an extraordinary career. >> [ inaudible ]. >> you know, again, i think you're going to have to talk to the fbi in terms of what their general protocols are when it comes to what started off as a potential criminal investigation. one of the challenges here is that we're not supposed to medle in criminal investigations and that's been our practice. you know, i think that there
he served this country with great distinction in iraq, in afghanistan, and as head of the cia. by his own assessment, he did not meet the standards that he felt were necessary as the director of cia with respect to this personal matter that he is now dealing with with his family and with his wife. it's on that basis that he tendered his resignation and it's on that basis that i accepted it. but i want to emphasize that from my perspective at least, he has provided this country an extraordinary...
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. >>> opening up behind closed doors, a week after resigning as head of the cia over an extramarital affair david petraeus heads to both sides of capitol hill this morning for hearings on what happened in the leadup and aftermath of the september attack that killed four americans in libya. >>> meanwhile, at the other end of pennsylvania avenue, president obama gets ready to sit down with congressional leaders from both parties to try to figure out the fiscal cliff. is speaker boehner ready to make a deal anytime soon? >>> plus, major news for big business. the justice department hits bp with the biggest criminal penalty ever assessed on a corporation for the 2010 gulf oil spill. >>> and so much for the ideas that twinkies last forever. bankruptcy breaks a big-time baker. >>> good morning from washington. it's friday, november 16, 2012. this is "the daily rundown." i'm luke russert in for chuck todd who hasn't worked hard enough at all this entire election campaign, he's now going to asia to cover the president's trip. former cia director david petraeus will testify in the benghazi at
. >>> opening up behind closed doors, a week after resigning as head of the cia over an extramarital affair david petraeus heads to both sides of capitol hill this morning for hearings on what happened in the leadup and aftermath of the september attack that killed four americans in libya. >>> meanwhile, at the other end of pennsylvania avenue, president obama gets ready to sit down with congressional leaders from both parties to try to figure out the fiscal cliff. is speaker...
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the sudden resignation of the cia director david petraeus prompting serious questions on some national security and pushes congress into the who knew what and when mode. we'll have the latest developments later this morning. then there's the drama already on capitol hill over how to avoid plunging over the so-called fiscal cliff. are there enough republicans ready to raise revenue? but is that even enough to fix things without raising tax rates? plus, our autopsy of the campaign. now that florida has had enough time to decide who won there last tuesday, a deep dive into the oh, so coveted i-4 corridor. find out how the region that includes disneyworld turned into the democrats magic kingdom. good morning from washington. it's monday, november 12, 2012. this is "the daily rundown. "i'm chuck todd. this is the federal holiday in honoring veterans day, by the way. to my first reads of the morning. it's a shiny metal object, the david petraeus investigation. it's overshadowing what is the biggest story still in washington for the next two months. the president this week will kick off an ef
the sudden resignation of the cia director david petraeus prompting serious questions on some national security and pushes congress into the who knew what and when mode. we'll have the latest developments later this morning. then there's the drama already on capitol hill over how to avoid plunging over the so-called fiscal cliff. are there enough republicans ready to raise revenue? but is that even enough to fix things without raising tax rates? plus, our autopsy of the campaign. now that...
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to speak for a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morell, who is a career agency analyst. michael morell has stepped in as acting director again. i think that's from the standpoint of the cia and the stability of u.s. intelligence efforts the most positive thing you could say. morell is a career guy. he's trusted by the white house. he was trusted by petraeus, and so you have a smoother transition than you sometimes do in these situations. >> let me get back to richard engel about this. you know, you know these guys. you know as a military guy covering our fights overseas, the combat operations in iraq especially, this man was almost at the general mcarthur level just a few years ago. people were talking about him being the republican candidate for the presidency in the current election cycle. this is a big fall. this is a big fall down from where he was in our national estima estimate. >> it's almost the fall of an american hero. this last decade didn't create very many heros in the pub
to speak for a moment about the cia, general petraeus when he came to the cia about 15 months ago appointed as his deputy the then acting director michael morell, who is a career agency analyst. michael morell has stepped in as acting director again. i think that's from the standpoint of the cia and the stability of u.s. intelligence efforts the most positive thing you could say. morell is a career guy. he's trusted by the white house. he was trusted by petraeus, and so you have a smoother...
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we're also talking about the cia director. so i would presume that a lot of these folks that were investigating this were extremely sensitive to all of those environmental factors, if you will, to make sure that they get it right. >> right. and i think the question in the congressional hearings will be, beyond the sensitivity, did they meet their obligations? it's significant that senator feinstein was a democrat who didn't have an ax to grind against the president is raising those timeline questions. we will continue on this story here on msnbc. after the break, in this show, president obama will be honoring u.s. servicemen and women on veterans day, saying we must do more to support them. we are going to take stock of what the country is doing right now for its troops when they return home. that's up next on "now." ♪ [ male announcer ] from our nation's networks... ♪ ...to our city streets... ♪ ...to skies around the world... ♪ ...northrop grumman's security solutions are invisibly at work, protecting people's lives.
we're also talking about the cia director. so i would presume that a lot of these folks that were investigating this were extremely sensitive to all of those environmental factors, if you will, to make sure that they get it right. >> right. and i think the question in the congressional hearings will be, beyond the sensitivity, did they meet their obligations? it's significant that senator feinstein was a democrat who didn't have an ax to grind against the president is raising those...
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is your beef with the cia and not susan rice? >> if that's the information that she got, the question is, who did she get it from? was it changed from the time from are either mike morell got it or somebody else? we're going to get to the bottom of this. i think that's a clearly important topic for the intelligence committee to look at. my belief is, our chairman, dianne feinstein, is as eager to get to the bottom of this as any republican on that committee. and we will. >> senator blunt, i want to get your reaction to what mitt romney was overheard on a donor conference call saying yesterday as to why he lost. do you agree with his assessment that he lost because of gifts? >> because of what? >> gifts, if you will, to certain constituency groups. >> i didn't -- i didn't hear the comment. and don't know the context of it. i think we lost because the president turned out more voters in the battleground states than anybody thought he was possibly going to be able to turn out. and the mechanics of politics matter as wells as the mes
is your beef with the cia and not susan rice? >> if that's the information that she got, the question is, who did she get it from? was it changed from the time from are either mike morell got it or somebody else? we're going to get to the bottom of this. i think that's a clearly important topic for the intelligence committee to look at. my belief is, our chairman, dianne feinstein, is as eager to get to the bottom of this as any republican on that committee. and we will. >> senator...
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. >> i think he took the right step, and i think it's important when you're director of the cia with all the challenges that face you, and have -- that personal integrity comes first and foremost. >> panetta a former cia director and the washington shuffle with panetta and clinton saying they want out of the second term. will john kerry now go to the pentagon? can susan rice be confirmed as secretary of state? and will nancy pelosi run for leader again? and what a welcome to washington the new class of congress arriving just in time for a classic d.c. scandal. and a different fall from grace, jon stewart, crowns himself the worst journalist in the world. >> anyone out there who thought i may have actual journalists instincts i give you a snippet of my interview. >> he loves serving, to be in the arena. i thought i was going to test him, he tested me, crushed his pelvis. he wanted to help me with the project. he can turn water into bottled water. >> the whole time i was staring at how defined her arms were. [ inaudible ]. i am the worst jurmist in the world. for god's sake the title o
. >> i think he took the right step, and i think it's important when you're director of the cia with all the challenges that face you, and have -- that personal integrity comes first and foremost. >> panetta a former cia director and the washington shuffle with panetta and clinton saying they want out of the second term. will john kerry now go to the pentagon? can susan rice be confirmed as secretary of state? and will nancy pelosi run for leader again? and what a welcome to...
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i found him to be very credible and forthcoming and was doing a good job at cia. it's a big loss for the agency and country that he has left but given the circumstances, unfortunately, i don't see there was any other alternative. >> how concerned are you that the fbi didn't seem to tell anyone about this investigation in what many in congress have suggested was not a timely manner? >> right, i'm very concerned about that and i spoke about that yesterday. with some of the staff who were getting briefed up on what was going to be coming in terms of the hearings and i asked the question, you know, when do they have an obligation to report and, of course, the answer is in a timely manner and as i understand it, the fbi did not inform either the chairman or the ranking member of either the house or senate intelligence committee or the full committees in a timely manner so that's something where it has to be addressed not only in this situation but other areas that involve sensitive intelligence issues or investigations. they need to be compliant with the law. >> congre
i found him to be very credible and forthcoming and was doing a good job at cia. it's a big loss for the agency and country that he has left but given the circumstances, unfortunately, i don't see there was any other alternative. >> how concerned are you that the fbi didn't seem to tell anyone about this investigation in what many in congress have suggested was not a timely manner? >> right, i'm very concerned about that and i spoke about that yesterday. with some of the staff who...
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of course the cia has denied this is the case. if it were true, it would seem to potentially violate one of president obama's original executive orders. and she does say in there that this is still being vet vetted suggesting this was a piece of intelligence that was not clear, although you would think the cia would know for sure whether it was hold be a prisoner in b benghazi. . >> we'll be watching. michael, thanks for your time tonight. coming up, president obama's emotional speech to staffers was one surprise. and today, a new behind the scenes video of the president with his staffers. you need to see what happens in this one. plus the gop in crisis. republicans are throwing karl rove under the bus. and it could get very ugly. and who is pointing fingers at rush limbaugh? it's a big story tonight. stay with us. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by decem
of course the cia has denied this is the case. if it were true, it would seem to potentially violate one of president obama's original executive orders. and she does say in there that this is still being vet vetted suggesting this was a piece of intelligence that was not clear, although you would think the cia would know for sure whether it was hold be a prisoner in b benghazi. . >> we'll be watching. michael, thanks for your time tonight. coming up, president obama's emotional speech to...
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and the cia director. and you were never informed. >> not only that, but an fbi agent, apparently, took it upon himself to go to members of the house and tell them. and this was outside of the general line of information. and that's deeply disturbing. so i will take a look at that to too. >> let my circle back to that. the fbi agent who had initially been contacted by this woman who was a friend of the petraeus' family, jill kelly in tampa, this fbi agent who knew her, so she went to him as far as our reporting is concerned, she went to him and asked for help. she was getting e-mails that were of concern to her, harassing or threatening e-mails. this is jill kelly, whose husband and the petraeuses has been friends for more than five years -- >> well, this is all news to me. see, we were not told this. this is the first time i've learned of this. so that makes me think, how many other things are there, too? >> well, and from what our reporting, from my colleagues, pete williams, michael isikoff and i from o
and the cia director. and you were never informed. >> not only that, but an fbi agent, apparently, took it upon himself to go to members of the house and tell them. and this was outside of the general line of information. and that's deeply disturbing. so i will take a look at that to too. >> let my circle back to that. the fbi agent who had initially been contacted by this woman who was a friend of the petraeus' family, jill kelly in tampa, this fbi agent who knew her, so she went...
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be that at the state department, the cia. >> there are two issues here. one is the physical security of the consulate itself. based on all of the intelligence that we knew, all of that information, said clearly there was a high degree of threat. i believe that there was a catastrophic failure in recognizing that threat posture clearly on that date. that's a separate issue than the intelligence issue. we had clearly the intelligence was right. clearly, others had made decisions based on that threat, including other nations, had pulled out of benghazi. we knew all of that was going on through the investigation. but the state department for whatever reason didn't make the adjustments. i argue, and i think the senator would argue, would have been prudent to protect the lives. that's one issue. but the second issue is the narrative created following it did not match the intelligence. and did the policy decisions that happened afterward cause problems for the united states? i argue it has, and we have agreed together that we'll get to the bottom of how that hap
be that at the state department, the cia. >> there are two issues here. one is the physical security of the consulate itself. based on all of the intelligence that we knew, all of that information, said clearly there was a high degree of threat. i believe that there was a catastrophic failure in recognizing that threat posture clearly on that date. that's a separate issue than the intelligence issue. we had clearly the intelligence was right. clearly, others had made decisions based on...
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his career at the cia is over. that's absolutely the right thing to do i have nope him for 20 years and petraeus is sort of the person the smallest little thing bothers him and to go through this, clearly a man of conscience made a grave mistake and just that, that anxiety is the sort of thing that could set anyone on edge. >> i want to turn to we just heard from accept tour shum and coburn about the fiscal cliff and talk to start about the mandate for the president in his second term, how do we define it? our colleague, ron torn yeah, wrote the following in the national journal on wednesday, digesting the election results. and this question of mandates, what he writes -- congressman, a democrat in san antonio, in a house still run by the republicans, we have a status quo election from that point of view, how do you define the mandates specifically around the fiscal cliff? >> the mandate for the american people for the congress to take action. david, we have sat here for four years in a gridlock situation and peopl
his career at the cia is over. that's absolutely the right thing to do i have nope him for 20 years and petraeus is sort of the person the smallest little thing bothers him and to go through this, clearly a man of conscience made a grave mistake and just that, that anxiety is the sort of thing that could set anyone on edge. >> i want to turn to we just heard from accept tour shum and coburn about the fiscal cliff and talk to start about the mandate for the president in his second term,...
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. >> once the fbi realized it was investigating the director of the cia or the cia director had come within its focus or its scope, i believe at that time they had an absolute obligation to tell the president. not to protect david petraeus but to protect the president. >> for the latest on the fallout, let's check in with pete williams. he's been following this for us. pete, let's talk about the time line here. this happened right before the benghazi hearings. petraeus is supposed to have testified at those hearings on thursday. critics are questioning, why are we hearing about all of this later rather than sooner? >> what the fbi and the justice department say is that in the middle of this investigation -- and you have to remember, this starts out with an allegation that had nothing to do with david petraeus, it was thought. this was a woman in tampa, a volunteer at the joint command down there, who goes to an fbi agent who's a friend of hers and says, i'm getting these weird e-mails that are threatening and intimidating. it looked to her initially like they were coming from more th
. >> once the fbi realized it was investigating the director of the cia or the cia director had come within its focus or its scope, i believe at that time they had an absolute obligation to tell the president. not to protect david petraeus but to protect the president. >> for the latest on the fallout, let's check in with pete williams. he's been following this for us. pete, let's talk about the time line here. this happened right before the benghazi hearings. petraeus is supposed...
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as we know from history, cia directors can cause presidents great grief. the bay of pigs, wmd not in iraq and so forth. also, they can do very important things for presidents, like the bin laden raid, which was a covert cia -- >> i know from spending time with him in his current role, how much he loved this job, engaged by this job and had tremendous bandwidth in terms of his counterterror operation. a lot of questions who replaces him. >> very quickly, he was transforming the agency. add rocky start but he was seeing a global vision, the economic future, looking at asia, looking at china. he was going well beyond the counterterror operations. really transform that. >> he did the honorable thing. he had to resign, given this. i don't think there was any question. >> more on this when we discuss it with our roundtable, andrea mitchell, bob woodward, thank you very much. >>> i want to turn now to two key voices in the senate, democratic senator from new york, chuck schumer and oklahoma republican senator, tom coburn. senators, welcome, both of you back to "m
as we know from history, cia directors can cause presidents great grief. the bay of pigs, wmd not in iraq and so forth. also, they can do very important things for presidents, like the bin laden raid, which was a covert cia -- >> i know from spending time with him in his current role, how much he loved this job, engaged by this job and had tremendous bandwidth in terms of his counterterror operation. a lot of questions who replaces him. >> very quickly, he was transforming the...
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he was digging for jewels over the cia. >> reporter: it's always been personal. i tell you, it feels like it's personal with mccain. i don't know if it was ever personal before with the president. now it actually feels like it might be. personal with the president, too. it's just -- it's just one of those, just like kennedy -- >> i understand. we can figure these things out. thanks, chuck. chuck todd at the white house. >>> now joining us is u.s. congressman james clyburn from south carolina, member of the house leadership. let's talk about the real politics of equity, fairness, real democratic values, congressman. you're in the leadership. you're going to make the call. does the president have to win -- i think he has to -- does he have to win on making sure the wealthy of this country get back to paying what they paid under clinton? >> absolutely. he's just absolutely got to win that. and i think he will win that. but let me say, chris, thank you so much for having me. may i say something about susan rice? >> sure. >> i have a real, real problem with my senior
he was digging for jewels over the cia. >> reporter: it's always been personal. i tell you, it feels like it's personal with mccain. i don't know if it was ever personal before with the president. now it actually feels like it might be. personal with the president, too. it's just -- it's just one of those, just like kennedy -- >> i understand. we can figure these things out. thanks, chuck. chuck todd at the white house. >>> now joining us is u.s. congressman james clyburn...
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the latest details on the investigation and resignation of cia general director david petraeus. >>> president obama is taking his fiscal argument to a higher power than congress. >>> fbi investigators want to know what caused a massive explosion that killed two and damaged over 30 homes, while leveling some completely. good morning to you. i'm veronica de la cruz. government officials say after admitting that an extramarital affair with his biographer paula broadwell. a woman received harassing e-mails from broadwell. and the complaint led to the investigation that uncovered the affair. there's a growing chorus of questions from lawmakers as to when exactly the affair came to light, who in washington knew about it and when they were told. >> reporter: according to a senior federal official and close friend of david petraeus, 37-year-old jill kelly complained to fbi agents about being harassed by paula broadwell, david petraeus' biographer. a senior military official says jill kelly is involved in wounded warrior fund raising in tampa, is married. she and her husband are close petraeus family
the latest details on the investigation and resignation of cia general director david petraeus. >>> president obama is taking his fiscal argument to a higher power than congress. >>> fbi investigators want to know what caused a massive explosion that killed two and damaged over 30 homes, while leveling some completely. good morning to you. i'm veronica de la cruz. government officials say after admitting that an extramarital affair with his biographer paula broadwell. a woman...
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sex, lies, and e-mail brought down the director of the cia. tonight, the story is getting stranger by the hour. the newest twist involves the shirtless e-mails of one of the fbi investigatoinvestigators, a the hour, law enforcement officials have conducted a search of paula broadwell's home in north carolina, which is just step as way from the home of rielle hunter, john edwards' form former mistress. and you pick the price that works for you. great. whoa, whoa, jamie. watch where you point that thing. [ mocking ] "watch where you point that thing." you point yours, i point mine. okay, l-let's stay calm. [ all shouting ] put it down! be cool! everybody, just be cool! does it price better on the side? no, it just looks cooler. the name your price tool, only from progressive. call or click today. i got you covered. thank you. oh, you're so welcome. side by side so you get the same coverage, often for less. that's one smart board. what else does it do, reverse gravity? [ laughs ] [ laughs ] [ whooshing ] tell me about it. why am i not going anywh
sex, lies, and e-mail brought down the director of the cia. tonight, the story is getting stranger by the hour. the newest twist involves the shirtless e-mails of one of the fbi investigatoinvestigators, a the hour, law enforcement officials have conducted a search of paula broadwell's home in north carolina, which is just step as way from the home of rielle hunter, john edwards' form former mistress. and you pick the price that works for you. great. whoa, whoa, jamie. watch where you point...
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it's also the cia director. this is different than a senator having an affair. the cia director more liable to blackmail. >> james, i have to ask this, we have two generals now, general allen, general petraeus, is this coincidence, two generals caught up in something like this or is there a culture here among the top commanders if they can get away with anything? >> i don't think there's a culture. we haven't gotten to the bottom of this case. it's much more than coincidence the same people are involved, so there is something going on here. it's obviously going to be investigated and rightfully so. but i don't think they think they have impunity but are under really extraordinary circumstances and those circumstances might lend themselves in some cases to affairs and things like this. >> how concerned are you, would you be about morale? >> you know, mildly concerned. as i said in my piece, this rang ls with a lot of people who understood petraeus was really an extraordinary leader, that he had skills and talents that just don't come around every day. probably th
it's also the cia director. this is different than a senator having an affair. the cia director more liable to blackmail. >> james, i have to ask this, we have two generals now, general allen, general petraeus, is this coincidence, two generals caught up in something like this or is there a culture here among the top commanders if they can get away with anything? >> i don't think there's a culture. we haven't gotten to the bottom of this case. it's much more than coincidence the...
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. >>> all right, general petraeus' replacement at the cia mike morell met tuesday. he'll speak with counterparts on the house side today about the scandals, the national security implications, why congress wasn't told soon er and, also, e assume benghazi will come up. joining me now the national investigative correspondent michael isikoff and capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. kelly, let me start with you before i get to mike on the latest on the general scandal itself. congress continues to basically wring their hands over why didn't they know sooner on this front. are they getting any more answers today? >> reporter: well, they expect to get more answers as there is now a kind of greater spirit of providing answers. we've seen the top people from the cia, the acting director who was here yesterday back again today, also the deputy director of the fbi coming to talk to the key members who are on those committees. they would have jurisdiction here, who believe they should have been in the loop at some point. so that's one issue. but a lot of this gets confl
. >>> all right, general petraeus' replacement at the cia mike morell met tuesday. he'll speak with counterparts on the house side today about the scandals, the national security implications, why congress wasn't told soon er and, also, e assume benghazi will come up. joining me now the national investigative correspondent michael isikoff and capitol hill correspondent kelly o'donnell. kelly, let me start with you before i get to mike on the latest on the general scandal itself....
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the problem is when you connect it to the cia. if you have a secret when you're in the cia that you haven't told them about before, you're fired. because you're subject to blackmail. that's the way it works for his underlings. even though there is no evidence he has been blackmail order was at risk of being blackmailed, because his underlings have to live in that kind of universe, where you're fired if you cover up a secret, he had to go. and he understood that. and i don't think the president fired him. i think he understood he had to go. >> we're going to take a quick break here. you mentioned your book here the promise on the president's first year. also, is there room for mitt romney at the president's table? some have said this. we're not making this up. we'll talk about that as well. this is msnbc, the place for politics. ♪ i wish my patients could see what i see. ♪ that over time, having high cholesterol and any of these risk factors can put them at increased risk for plaque buildup in their arteries. so it's even more
the problem is when you connect it to the cia. if you have a secret when you're in the cia that you haven't told them about before, you're fired. because you're subject to blackmail. that's the way it works for his underlings. even though there is no evidence he has been blackmail order was at risk of being blackmailed, because his underlings have to live in that kind of universe, where you're fired if you cover up a secret, he had to go. and he understood that. and i don't think the president...
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sex, lies, and e-mail brought down the director of the cia. tonight, the story is getting stranger by the hour. the newest twist involves the shirtless e-mails of one of the fbi investigators, and within the hour, law enforcement officials have conducted a search of paula broadwell's home in north carolina, which is just step as way from the home of rielle hunter, john edwards' former mistress. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you can. great. where's your gift? uh... whew. [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. ship fedex express by december 22nd for christmas delivery. by december 22nd when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's develop more stars in education. let's invest in our teachers... ...so they can inspire our students. let's solve this. by earning
sex, lies, and e-mail brought down the director of the cia. tonight, the story is getting stranger by the hour. the newest twist involves the shirtless e-mails of one of the fbi investigators, and within the hour, law enforcement officials have conducted a search of paula broadwell's home in north carolina, which is just step as way from the home of rielle hunter, john edwards' former mistress. i always wait until the last minute. can i still ship a gift in time for christmas? yeah, sure you...
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and then in september of 2012 the director of the cia is writing a letter vouching for -- >> so, the judge has this assessment of jill's -- >> jill kelley's sister. >> right, right. >> and then general petraeus, as districter of the cia and general allen both wrote letters this past september on behalf of this sister as a favor to jill kelley? >> well, we can presume as a favor to jill kelley, general petraeus, then-cia director petraeus referenced spending time with the sister and her son, young son, while the kelley family, including jill kelley, was visiting with him over christmas, at a christmas dinner at the petraeus home. so, clearly there was a very close relationship there between the kelleys and the petraeuses. >> how does this woman, jill kelley, get to close to all these generals? >> well, you know, that is one of the big unanswered questions here. she clearly had a lot of access to a lot of high-level people in the tampa area. she lived within a mile of central command and special operations command are located. she made a point of volunteering for events and being very
and then in september of 2012 the director of the cia is writing a letter vouching for -- >> so, the judge has this assessment of jill's -- >> jill kelley's sister. >> right, right. >> and then general petraeus, as districter of the cia and general allen both wrote letters this past september on behalf of this sister as a favor to jill kelley? >> well, we can presume as a favor to jill kelley, general petraeus, then-cia director petraeus referenced spending time...
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military and the cia director himself. and that's what triggered delivering the e-mail, bringing the e-mails to the fbi and triggered concern by the fbi as well to open up the investigation. >> layer by layer, we continue to learn more. thank you, i appreciate it. >> thank you. just a short time ago president obama arrived in new york. he is expected to meet with family officials and first responders, all still trying to recover from hurricane sandy. the storm left millions without powers. some of the hardest hit areas on new york's long island. the congressman joins me now. congressman, it's good to have you with me this morning. let's ask about your area, neighbors there. how are they doing recovering from sandy and in your estimation has the federal government done enough to help in the last few weeks? >> well, this recovery will be long, it will be slow and difficult. it has been the way since the storm struck the last two weeks ago. we have small businesses trying to recover that lost business, our economy took a hit.
military and the cia director himself. and that's what triggered delivering the e-mail, bringing the e-mails to the fbi and triggered concern by the fbi as well to open up the investigation. >> layer by layer, we continue to learn more. thank you, i appreciate it. >> thank you. just a short time ago president obama arrived in new york. he is expected to meet with family officials and first responders, all still trying to recover from hurricane sandy. the storm left millions without...
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. >>> plus spy fall, what we're learning about the affair that brought down the cia chief and perhaps derailed the promotion of the top general. and has been tabloid fodder now for almost a week. >>> and besides complaining about how president obama won re-election by giving away gifts to minorities and young voters, ever wonder what mitt romney has done -- actually been doing since the election? well, david letterman has an idea. >> today mitt romney drew a picture of the house of representatives chamber and gave a state of the union address in front of it. >> and the fourth new entitlement, obama care, we repeal that one. >> message from pretend president romney. >> got a few more of those sugar plums in the side shows. let me finish way book about when we hay hero for a president. this is "hardball," the place for politics. ♪ i'd like to thank eating right, whole grain, multigrain cheerios! mom, are those my jeans? [ female announcer ] people who choose more whole grain tend to weigh less than those who don't. multigrain cheerios >>> time to bust another 2012 election myth. the i
. >>> plus spy fall, what we're learning about the affair that brought down the cia chief and perhaps derailed the promotion of the top general. and has been tabloid fodder now for almost a week. >>> and besides complaining about how president obama won re-election by giving away gifts to minorities and young voters, ever wonder what mitt romney has done -- actually been doing since the election? well, david letterman has an idea. >> today mitt romney drew a picture of...
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the other one until recently head of the cia. this aspect to it, it's just -- well, i don't know what to say. i'm not used to covering these kinds of stories and wouldn't be if these weren't the people involved. your thoughts about how -- fill it in as the reporter. what i'm missing here. >> you did a very good job of pulling that together. i commend you. you really got the high points. it's fascinating, this big scandal affecting two commanders, bringing down petraeus, affecting general john allen, started really with a social scene in tampa. jill kelley is a socialite there. sort of an ad hoc ambassador of sorts, a social ambassador to the military base there. she's known for throwing lavish parties, cigars, champagne, string quartets and socializes with these people. she goes to an fbi agent she knows, again very politically well-connected in tampa, and says in june, i'm getting these strange e-mails. what do i do? this agent takes them to the tampa office of the fbi and says investigate. now, you know, the fbi doesn't investi
the other one until recently head of the cia. this aspect to it, it's just -- well, i don't know what to say. i'm not used to covering these kinds of stories and wouldn't be if these weren't the people involved. your thoughts about how -- fill it in as the reporter. what i'm missing here. >> you did a very good job of pulling that together. i commend you. you really got the high points. it's fascinating, this big scandal affecting two commanders, bringing down petraeus, affecting general...
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>>> president obama has named michael morell as the acting cia director. it is not clear who will testify on next week's benghazi attack. >>> many are questioning how many with an impeccable military record could be brought down by an extramarital afare. joining me now jack jacobs. welcome to you, colonel. i know you have known this man for an awfully long time. he was a cadet while you were teaching him at west point. talk about him in general as a man and general. >> very smart kid. spoke very well, always did very well. full of energy. very smart in thought as generals, potential generals should. far, far ahead of what's happening right now. always thought of consequences, which is something of an irony in the circumstances. and not surprisingly rose very, very quickly up through the ranks. >> which by that description you find shocking this if he's a man who looks at consequences of actions. this is something that took him down not as a result of him trying to cover up an affair but fbi being alert today look into some level of impropriety. >> yeah. my
>>> president obama has named michael morell as the acting cia director. it is not clear who will testify on next week's benghazi attack. >>> many are questioning how many with an impeccable military record could be brought down by an extramarital afare. joining me now jack jacobs. welcome to you, colonel. i know you have known this man for an awfully long time. he was a cadet while you were teaching him at west point. talk about him in general as a man and general. >>...
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but republican and democratic lawmakers say petraeus made clear that the cia assessment of terrorism was secret and could not be used in public by u.n. ambassador susan rice. >> general petraeus, whose briefing was comprehensive, was added to our ability to make judgments about what has clearly a failure of intelligence. ambassador rice used the unclassified talking points. the unclassified. so she did completely the appropriate thing. >> nbc's mike vigor ra is live at the white house for us. >> good morning, alex. >> this back and forth we just listened to, does this end the dispute about what was said about the attacks in benghazi? >> i doubt that very seriously. it's tenored the political realm as well as the foreign policy and national security realm, and while harry reid, the democratic leader of the senate, the majority leader in the senate, has shot down republican suggestions that there should be a watergate-style joint committee, a select committee in the parlance of washington, to look into the benghazi attacks, of course, and september 11th that left four americans dead in
but republican and democratic lawmakers say petraeus made clear that the cia assessment of terrorism was secret and could not be used in public by u.n. ambassador susan rice. >> general petraeus, whose briefing was comprehensive, was added to our ability to make judgments about what has clearly a failure of intelligence. ambassador rice used the unclassified talking points. the unclassified. so she did completely the appropriate thing. >> nbc's mike vigor ra is live at the white...
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all along and for several reasons it's understandable why they wanted to hear from him, he was the cia director when the attack happened and went to libya and did sort of a fact-finding trip and came back and had additional information all of which the committee still wants to hear and according to our pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski, petraeus himself wanted to do this and called his old colleagues at the cia and said, listen, i know they want to hear from me, i want to testify so they want to hear from him, he wants to testify so it's going to happen. it should be clarified here though, thomas, it won't be an open session. it'll be a closed session because obviously they'll be discussing classified information. >> pete, the other interesting thing we're just learning this new information about the e-mails between jill kelley and general allen and one source describing to nbc news that they were friendly, not so much of a sexual nature. we're talking about thousands of e-mails here but what more can you tell us? >> i don't think we know exactly how many e-mails there are becaus
all along and for several reasons it's understandable why they wanted to hear from him, he was the cia director when the attack happened and went to libya and did sort of a fact-finding trip and came back and had additional information all of which the committee still wants to hear and according to our pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski, petraeus himself wanted to do this and called his old colleagues at the cia and said, listen, i know they want to hear from me, i want to testify so they...
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>> i don't work in the cia. so i don't know what it would have done to morale if he had stayed in the cia. i think he could have stayed there. i don't think the cia would have been adversely affected. i think a few people in the cia including leaders of the cia have had affairs in the past. i don't think that that was a shock in and of itself. what bothers me is that this did not remain an internal fbi situation after they found out that national security was not at risk. i do not understand and i need the fbi to justify why they felt they needed to take this external after they made the determination that national security was not jeopardized. let's talk, jon huntsman, since we have you here, about the republicans. what happened last tuesday? >> well, i wish i had a very succinct answer for you, but i can conclude this. and that is if during the bush administration we had been successful with immigration reform, mitt romney would be president today. the way i look at it, you know, this should be an exciting tim
>> i don't work in the cia. so i don't know what it would have done to morale if he had stayed in the cia. i think he could have stayed there. i don't think the cia would have been adversely affected. i think a few people in the cia including leaders of the cia have had affairs in the past. i don't think that that was a shock in and of itself. what bothers me is that this did not remain an internal fbi situation after they found out that national security was not at risk. i do not...